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  • NY FANG
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    as you're both pointing out, sometimes not forcing a move is the right move. Still angry at the C vs the other NL East Bs.

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  • mjjm367
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    Originally posted by West Coast Mets Fan View Post
    In my opinion, the best move was not trading McNeil for Betts. While I would love to have Betts in the lineup with the Polar Bear, one year of him was not worth the loss of McNeil. That non-move alone should give them at least a B
    You could have stopped there and I would be 100% in agreement. Minimal salary, very good hitter, plays all over the field, minimal cost, many years of control.

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  • NY FANG
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    Or Nimmo for Marte. Or Smith & Lowrie for a salary dump.

    But definitely keeping McNeil was a good choice.

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  • West Coast Mets Fan
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    In my opinion, the best move was not trading McNeil for Betts. While I would love to have Betts in the lineup with the Polar Bear, one year of him was not worth the loss of McNeil. That non-move alone should give them at least a B

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  • NY FANG
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    https://www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/m...ed-sox-others/

    Skipping to the chase - They gave Mets off-season a C while Braves, Nats and Phillies all got Bs. Does that sound right? Maybe its my Mets Bias BUT...

    Braves - Lost their second biggest bat, while adding a bunch of veteran 1 year deals. Will Smith is not enough to raise them to a B.
    Nats - Kept Stras, but lost Rendon, a MUCH bigger loss than Wheeler without adding any youth. I can't think of another player where I'm thinking "I wish the Mets got him"
    Phillies - Signed Wheeler and then again a bunch of vets. Same thing. Their 2nd best signing was Didi. Yikes. Not counting Girardi here

    As for the Mets, are the knocked because they didn't make moves to sign a ton of aging vets to 1 year contracts?

    1B covered (alonso)
    2B covered (cano)
    SS covered (rosario)
    3B covered (mcneil)
    LF covered (Cespedes/Davis)
    RF covered (Conforto)
    C covered (Ramos)
    starting rotation addressed (points lost for loosing Wheeler, but no credit for adding Stro as a thinking ahead move)
    pen addressed
    bench - covered (Lowrie, Smith, Morsenic, Cespedes/Davis, back up catcher)

    only thing not on this list is CF where there were there was 1 option and it was overpriced and not great. Not to mention they literally turned nothing into something in the restructuring of Cespedes's contract.

    Anyway, rant done. I'm just not sure what more they could have done this off-season to at least qualify as 'good as the rest'.

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  • saxon
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    not a lot of versatility when it comes to the bench...we've got a bunch of LFers and 1st basemen on the team..and not much up the middle defense...Guillorme, Nido and Marisnick haven't shown that they can hit at the MLB level...and Cano/Nimmo/Ramos are probably the worst starting C/2B/CF combo in the majors for defense...

    let's just hope that JD can play a good enough 3B that when Cano has to rest, McNeil can take over at 2nd...and also that we have enough big leads that Nimmo/Ramos can come out of games with better defenders taking their place

    defense/bench aside though, we should have a pretty solid lineup on most days and one of our better overall pitching staffs...still don't have a lot of confidence that Matz won't have a random inning meltdown though
    Last edited by saxon; 18-Feb-2020, 10:47 PM.

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  • Drucifer
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    Mets 26-man Roster Prediction 3.0 for 2020 MLB Season

    There are some big changes on the bench

    by Danny Abriano
    18 Feb 2020, 1:15 PM ET


    Spring Training is in full swing for the Mets in Port St. Lucie, with games starting in just four days.

    While every member of the team has arrived in camp, some (Jed Lowrie and Yoenis Cespedes to name two) don't appear to be on track to be ready for game action when the bell rings on Saturday.

    Going by the above, listening to manager Luis Rojas talk, and reading between the lines, here's our roster prediction 3.0...

    Regular lineup
    Wilson Ramos, C
    Pete Alonso, 1B
    Robinson Cano, 2B
    Amed Rosario, SS
    Jeff McNeil, 3B
    J.D. Davis, LF
    Brandon Nimmo, CF
    Michael Conforto, RF


    Nothing has changed here since our second roster prediction, and -- barring injury (fingers crossed) -- it's likely that nothing will change.

    The infield is set and center field and right field are set. Left field is where the only intrigue lies, with a recharged and healthy-looking Yoenis Cespedes (more on him below) potentially challenging J.D. Davis.

    Starting rotation
    Jacob deGrom
    Noah Syndergaard
    Marcus Stroman
    Steven Matz
    Rick Porcello


    As has been the case since December, the Mets have six big league starting pitchers for five big league spots. They're not going to have a six-man rotation, so something has to give.

    The thought since the signings of Rick Porcello and Michael Wacha has been that Porcello is pretty much guaranteed a spot in the rotation. That leaves Wacha (who has incentives in his contract that are tied to a relief role) as the likely odd man out. However, it wouldn't be stunning if Matz wound up in the bullpen instead.

    Speaking about the situation last week, Luis Rojas was unwilling to commit to anyone beyond Jacob deGrom being in the rotation (although we know Noah Syndergaard and Marcus Stroman will also be in there). Expanding on that, Rojas cited Wacha and Matz as the only two of the group with experience in the bullpen. That likely tells us all we need to know about who the potential bullpen candidates are.

    Bench
    Yoenis Cespedes, OF
    Jake Marisnick, OF
    Luis Guillorme, INF
    Dominic Smith, 1B
    Tomas Nido, C


    Cespedes participated in the Mets' first full-team workout on Monday, has been hitting bombs in batting practice, and looks to be progressing well. Things could hit a snag, but at this point, he seems healthy enough and agile enough to be at least a bench piece.

    While Jed Lowrie is in camp and participating in drills, he is doing so with a huge brace on his left knee. And with Brodie Van Wagenen saying Tuesday that it's unclear whether Lowrie will be able to play in games with that brace, it seems highly unlikely that he'll be on the roster to start the year.

    While Lowrie remains off the projected roster, there are two changes.

    The first is Dominic Smith (who has been the subject of trade rumors) being added in place of Matt Adams.

    The second is Tomas Nido (who is out of options)being added as the backup catcher in place of Rene Rivera.

    Ramos, who has been making a concerted effort to improve his rapport with the pitching staff, has been paired with Syndergaard at times during camp, and it doesn't seem like the Mets are prepared to stop having Ramos catch him. So Rivera -- Thor's personal favorite -- could be opening the year in Triple-A Syracuse.

    Bullpen
    Edwin Diaz
    Dellin Betances
    Seth Lugo
    Jeurys Familia
    Robert Gsellman
    Justin Wilson
    Brad Brach
    Michael Wacha


    As is the case with the regular starting lineup, there really shouldn't be any change here, barring injury.

    The only possible change would be swapping in Matz for Wacha.

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  • Drucifer
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    2020 Roster - Prediction & Speculation

    Mets 26-Man Roster Prediction 2.0 for 2020 MLB Season

    Could a trade be on the horizon?

    by Danny Abriano
    3 Feb 2020, 11:45 AM ET

    We took our first crack at predicting the Mets' Opening Day 26-man roster about a month and a half ago. Since then, Dellin Betances has signed a free agent deal (he was in our initial prediction, so we'll give ourselves a pat on the back for that one).

    Beyond the Betances signing, the Mets have made a bunch of minor league signings since then, with the Matt Adams deal being the most notable.

    Also of note is that Yoenis Cespedes and Jed Lowrie are still on the roster, which could mean the Mets being at a disadvantage when it comes to the composition of their bench.

    Here's our roster prediction 2.0... Regular lineup

    Wilson Ramos, C
    Pete Alonso, 1B
    Robinson Cano, 2B
    Amed Rosario, SS
    Jeff McNeil, 3B
    J.D. Davis, LF
    Brandon Nimmo, CF
    Michael Conforto, RF

    With Mets target Starling Marte having been traded to the Diamondbacks, the eight starters above remain unchanged from our roster prediction 1.0. And with Marte off the board, it's hard to see a scenario -- barring injury -- where the above changes between now and the start of the season.

    In talks for Marte before Pittsburgh shipped him to Arizona, the Mets turned down packages that included one centered around J.D. Davis and another revolving around Brandon Nimmo. That should tell you a bit about how those two players are viewed within the Mets' offices. Starting rotation

    Jacob deGrom
    Noah Syndergaard
    Marcus Stroman
    Steven Matz
    Rick Porcello

    Nothing has changed here from our first prediction.

    With six starting pitchers for five spots, it remains hard to see a scenario where Michael Wacha doesn't head to the bullpen as the odd-man out. Sure, there is a chance Steven Matz -- who had a brief stint in the 'pen last year -- could wind up out there. But it doesn't seem likely. And Matz is unsurprisingly on record saying he views himself as a starter.

    So barring a disastrous spring training performance from Matz or Rick Porcello (who is making a good deal more than Wacha), those two are great bets to round out the back of the rotation. Bench

    Yoenis Cespedes, OF
    Jake Marisnick, OF
    Luis Guillorme, INF
    Matt Adams, 1B
    Rene Rivera, C

    Our initial prediction had Sam Haggerty and Tomas Nido as two of the bench pieces. That is no longer the case.

    So sub out Haggerty (no longer in the organization) and add in Matt Adams. And sub out Nido and add Rene Rivera, who is Noah Syndergaard's favorite catcher and is back on a minor league deal.

    We'll continue to predict that Jed Lowrie and Dominic Smith will be traded (a Smith trade makes even more sense with Adams now on the team), but get more specific this time. They'll be dealt in a package deal to the Rangers that brings back low-level prospects. Bullpen

    Edwin Diaz
    Dellin Betances
    Seth Lugo
    Jeurys Familia
    Robert Gsellman
    Justin Wilson
    Brad Brach
    Michael Wacha

    This unit is identical to the one that was predicted on Dec. 23 -- before the Mets added Betances.

    Now that Betances is on board, there doesn't seem to be much ambiguity when it comes to how the bullpen will shake out.

    Barring injury, seven of the above pitchers will be in the bullpen. And barring a surprise with the starting rotation, Wacha will round it out the 'pen.


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