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  • 2019 Rule 5 Draft - Order, Eligible Players and More

    Rule 5 Draft - Order, Eligible Players and More

    by Jonathan Mayo @JonathanMayo
    9 Dec 2019, 12:15 AM EST

    SAN DIEGO -- The Winter Meetings are always full of uncertainty, mystery and intrigue. No one knows when a deal might go down or when a free agent might sign. But there is one certainty at the end of every Meetings: the Rule 5 Draft.

    Every year, all 30 teams gather for this annual search for diamonds in the rough, and every year teams do find big league talent. They might not jump to stardom, at least not right away, but there will undoubtedly be Major League contributors taken at this year’s Draft.

    Rule 5 Draft coverageThis year's Rule 5 Draft takes place Thursday in San Diego at noon ET, with a live audio stream on MLB.com. By virtue of finishing with the worst record in baseball in 2019, the Tigers get the first pick, followed by the Orioles and Marlins. The Royals and Blue Jays round out the top five.

    There are hundreds of eligible players, and teams are going through those lists and scouring past reports, as well as any from the Arizona Fall League or winter ball, to help determine whether they want to make any selections.

    The Draft order
    Below is this year's Rule 5 Draft order, based on the reverse order of the 2019 regular-season standings. A team must have room on its 40-man roster to make a pick, so each team's 40-man status is noted in parentheses.

    Rule 5 Draft order

    A team can only select a player if it has space on its 40-man roster.
    1. Tigers (39)
    2. Orioles (37)
    3. Marlins (40)
    4. Royals (36)
    5. Blue Jays (37)
    6. Mariners (37)
    7. Pirates (39)
    8. Padres (40)
    9. Rockies (40)
    10. Angels (40)
    11. White Sox (37)
    12. Reds (39)
    13. Giants (37)
    14. Rangers (39)
    15. Phillies (38)
    16. Cubs (37)
    17. Red Sox (36)
    18. D-backs (37)
    19. Mets (40)
    20. Brewers (32)
    21. Cardinals (40)
    22. Nationals (30)
    23. Indians (40)
    24. Rays (38)
    25. Braves (38)
    26. A's (38)
    27. Twins (35)
    28. Yankees (40)
    29. Dodgers (39)
    30. Astros (38)
    How it works

    Players first signed at age 18 must be added to 40-man rosters within five seasons or they become eligible to be drafted by other organizations through the Rule 5 Draft process. Players signed at age 19 or older have to be protected within four seasons. Clubs pay $100,000 to select a player in the Major League phase of the Rule 5 Draft. If that player doesn't stay on the 25-man roster for the full season, he must be offered back to his former team for $50,000.

    For this year, that means an international or high school Draft pick signed in 2015 -- assuming he was 18 or younger as of June 5 of that year -- has to be protected. A college player taken in the '16 Draft is in the same position.

    There were 14 players taken in last year’s Major League phase. Eight of them saw at least a little big league time with the team that acquired them, either in the Draft or in a trade announced immediately at the conclusion of the draft. Over the last five years, 50 of the 80 players taken in this phase were in the big leagues, at least briefly, with that team.

    There is also a Minor League phase of the Rule 5 Draft, with the costs rising from $12,000 to $24,000 for a Triple-A pick (anyone not protected on a big league or Triple-A roster is eligible). The Double-A phase has been eliminated. Players selected in this portion of the Rule 5 Draft aren't subject to any roster restrictions with their new organizations.

    Recent successes
    Two players from last year’s Major League phase finished with a positive Wins Above Replacement: Brandon Brennan (0.4) of the Mariners and the Blue Jays’ Elvis Luciano, who was the youngest player in the big leagues in 2019. In 2018, 11 of the 18 Major League phase draftees were in the big leagues with with the team that drafted them or traded for them immediately following the draft. Another three players made it to MLB after they were sent back to their original team. In 2016, 18 players were taken, and 10 spent time in the big leagues.

    From that group, Brad Keller has had the most success with the Royals, spending two years on Kansas City’s staff and compiling a 6.2 WAR in 2018-19 combined. It's right up there with Odúbel Herrera's rookie campaign with the Phillies in '15. The outfielder compiled a 4.0 WAR that year, made the All-Star team in '16 and signed a five-year, $30.5 million extension with the Phillies almost two years to the day after being taken in the Rule 5 Draft. He'd been a big league regular for four seasons before getting an 85-game suspension for violating Major League Baseball's joint domestic violence, sexual assault and child abuse policy.

    Other recent success stories include reliever Joe Biagini, who landed on the Blue Jays' postseason roster in 2016 after a solid first year in the big leagues, and Matt Bowman, who had a strong '16 campaign after his Rule 5 Draft selection in '15.

    All-time best picks
    The way the Rule 5 Draft works has changed over time. So while everyone's all-time list would undeniably start with Roberto Clemente, it's almost as if a "modern era" type qualifier is needed. Looking at 1990 through last year, here's how Rule 5 Draft picks line up in a top five, ranked by career WAR.
    1. Johan Santana, LHP, 50.7
    2. Shane Victorino, OF, 31.2
    3. Josh Hamilton, OF, 28.1
    4. Joakim Soria, RHP, 17.8
    5. Dan Uggla, 2B, 17.5
    Soria’s the only active player in this quintet and he passed Uggla after his 0.4 WAR in 2019.
    Top available prospects

    Here's a list of all 30 teams' Top 30 Prospects who are eligible to be selected in the Rule 5 Draft:

    Atlanta Braves
    16) Thomas Burrows, LHP

    Baltimore Orioles
    17) Cody Sedlock, RHP
    30) Gray Fenter, RHP

    Boston Red Sox
    26) Eduard Bazardo, RHP

    Chicago Cubs
    22) Oscar De La Cruz, RHP
    28) Trent Giambrone, INF/OF

    Chicago White Sox
    27) Alec Hansen, RHP

    Cincinnati Reds
    18) Alfredo Rodriguez, SS
    19) Andy Sugilio, OF
    20) TJ Friedl, OF
    21) Michael Beltre, OF
    24) Mariel Bautista, OF

    Cleveland Indians
    14) Luis Oviedo, RHP

    Colorado Rockies
    17) Robert Tyler, RHP
    19) Reid Humphreys, RHP
    24) Daniel Montano, OF
    27) Roberto Ramos, 1B

    Detroit Tigers
    22) Elvin Rodriguez, RHP
    27) Jake Robson, OF

    Houston Astros
    16) Ronnie Dawson, OF
    25) Jonathan Arauz, SS/3B

    Kansas City Royals
    11) Seuly Matias, OF
    19) Emmanuel Rivera, 3B
    29) Gabriel Cancel, 2B

    Los Angeles Angels
    24) Leonardo Rivas, SS/2B

    Los Angeles Dodgers
    23) Cristian Santana, 3B/1B
    26) Jordan Sheffield, RHP

    Miami Marlins
    26) Will Stewart, LHP

    Milwaukee Brewers
    3) Zack Brown, RHP
    14) Lucas Erceg, 3B/1B
    18) Braden Webb, RHP

    Minnesota Twins
    7) Wander Javier, SS
    21) Griffin Jax, RHP

    New York Mets
    8) Shervyen Newton, INF
    27) Patrick Mazeika, C
    28) Desmond Lindsay, OF
    29) Luis Carpio, 2B/SS

    Philadelphia Phillies
    12) Jhailyn Ortiz, OF
    13) Rafael Marchan, C
    17) Rodolfo Duran, C
    23) Daniel Brito, 2B/SS
    28) Cornelius Randolph, OF

    Pittsburgh Pirates
    15) Lolo Sanchez, OF

    San Diego Padres
    18) Esteury Ruiz, 2B
    25) Buddy Reed, OF

    San Francisco Giants
    16) Sandro Fabian, OF
    20) Franklin Labour, OF
    22) Ricardo Genoves, C
    28) Garrett Williams, LHP

    Seattle Mariners
    24) Dom Thompson-Williams, OF
    28) Ljay Newsome, RHP

    St. Louis Cardinals
    24) Conner Capel, OF
    30) Max Schrock, 2B/3B

    Tampa Bay Rays
    13) Moises Gomez, OF
    27) Resly Linares, LHP

    Texas Rangers
    30) Eli White, SS/OF

    Washington Nationals
    13) Sterling Sharp, RHP
    21) Steven Fuentes, RHP
    22) Malvin Pena, RHP
    25) Gilbert Lara, SS/3B
    27) Telmito Agustin, OF
    28) Jhonatan German, RHP



    Jonathan Mayo is a reporter for MLBPipeline.com. Follow him on Twitter @JonathanMayo and Facebook, and listen to him on the weekly Pipeline Podcast.

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    Here Are 13 Names to Watch Ahead of the Rule 5 Draft


    by Jim Callis @JimCallisMLB
    9 Dec 2019

    SAN DIEGO -- There may not be high rate of return on the Rule 5 Draft, but the annual event has yielded Hall of Famers such as Hack Wilson and Roberto Clemente and more recent success stories such as Johan Santana and Josh Hamilton.

    This year's Rule 5 Draft takes place Thursday at noon ET at San Diego's Manchester Grand Hyatt and will be streamed live on MLB.com. Candidates for selection include most players not protected on 40-man rosters who signed by age 18 and have completed five pro seasons, or who signed at age 19 or older and have finished four pro seasons.

    A team with an open spot on its 40-man roster may select an unprotected player in the big league phase of the Rule 5 Draft at the cost of $100,000. Rule 5 picks can't be demoted to the Minors next year without first clearing waivers and then being offered back to their original club for $50,000.

    Below are a baker's dozen of players who could hear their names called Thursday:

    Rule 5 Draft coverage
    Joe Barlow, RHP, Rangers
    Originally recruited by Salt Lake (Utah) CC as a catcher, Barlow can miss bats with a high-spin 95-98 mph fastball and a 12-6 curveball, though he sometimes struggles to harness his stuff. An 11th-round pick in 2016, he had a 3.16 ERA with 93 strikeouts and 42 walks while rising from Class A Advanced to Triple-A this year.

    Eduardo Bazardo, RHP, Red Sox
    As a reliever who's already had success in Double-A (2.78 ERA, 9.7 K/9 in the second half of 2019), Bazardo is a relatively safe bet to stick on a big league roster. Signed for $8,000 out of Venezuela in 2014, he has a 91-96 mph fastball and a high-spin curveball that projects as a plus pitch.

    Phil Bickford, RHP, Brewers
    One of 20 two-time first-round picks in Draft history, Bickford hasn't had much sustained success since the Giants took him 18th overall in 2015 out of the JC of Southern Nevada. Traded to the Brewers in July 2016 as part of the Will Smith deal, he flashed his first-round form down the stretch in Class A Advanced, throwing 26 scoreless innings with 39 strikeouts in the final two months thanks to a 92-94 mph fastball with heavy sink and elite extension.

    Zack Brown, RHP, Brewers
    No pitcher ranks higher on an MLB Pipeline organization Top 30 than Brown, No. 3 on our midseason Brewers list. The third-round pick out of Kentucky in 2016 went from Double-A Southern League
    Pitcher of the Year in 2018 to a 5.79 ERA in Triple-A this season, but he can deal with a 92-95 mph fastball and a plus curveball when he's on.

    Thomas Burrows, LHP, Braves
    Teams looking for a southpaw reliever will be attracted to Burrows, who uses a plus slider to carve up lefties. Drafted in fourth round out of Alabama by the Mariners in 2016 and traded to the Braves in a deal for Mallex Smith in January 2017, he has averaged 11.6 strikeouts per nine innings as a pro and logged a 4.42 ERA with 63 whiffs in 57 innings between Double-A and Triple-A this year.

    Wander Javier, SS, Twins
    Javier isn't ready to survive in the Majors after batting .177/.278/.323 in Class A in 2019 after missing all of the previous season with an injury to his non-throwing shoulder, but he also has some of the highest upside among all Rule-5 eligible players. Signed for $4 million out of the Dominican Republic in 2015, he has shown the potential for solid tools across the board and is the highest-ranked position player on an MLB Pipeline Top 30 at No. 7 on on our midseason Twins list.

    Juan Mota, RHP, Indians
    Signed out of the Dominican Republic in 2015, Mota is already 23 and has yet to rise above Class A, where he posted a 4.77 ERA with 113 strikeouts in 111 1/3 innings between two levels this year. Yet he could be enticing because he reaches 97 mph and holds his velocity deep into games, owns a tumbling changeup that can be devastating and also has the makings of an average slider.

    Buddy Reed, OF, Padres
    One of the best all-around athletes available, Reed is a potential Gold Glove center fielder with well above-average speed and arm strength as well as at least average raw power. The drawback is that the 2016 second-rounder from Florida hasn't produced at the plate outside of three months in Class A Advanced in 2018, and he hit .228 with a 29 percent whiff rate in Double-A this season.

    Alfredo Rodriguez, SS, Reds
    Signed out of Cuba for $7 million in 2016, Rodriguez is a high-floor, lower-ceiling pick who's capable of playing quality defense at a premium position and making contact at the plate. There are questions about how much offensive impact he'll make, however, and he batted just .267/.314/.327 with 16 steals between Double-A and Triple-A in 2019.

    Cristian Santana, 3B/1B, Dodgers
    Santana has well above-average raw power and arm strength, and he led the Class A Advanced California League with 24 homers and 109 RBI in 2018. He hit for average but not as much power in Double-A this season, batting .301/.320/.436 with 10 homers, and he rarely walks.

    Sterling Sharp, RHP, Nationals
    A 22nd-round choice out of NCAA Division II Drury (Mo.) in 2016, Sharp generates some of the best ground-ball rates in the Minors with a heavy low-90s sinker and a quality changeup. He missed time with an oblique injury in 2019, but posted a 3.53 ERA, 65 percent grounder rate and 52 strikeouts in 58 2/3 innings between three levels, then pitched well in the Arizona Fall League.

    Jordan Sheffield, RHP, Dodgers
    Sheffield developed slower than expected after the Dodgers took him in 2016's supplemental first round out of Vanderbilt, but he started to thrive after moving to the bullpen in the Arizona Fall League after the 2018 season. With a lively mid-90s fastball, a curveball that can be a hammer and a solid changeup, he recorded a 3.27 ERA, .168 opponent average and 74 strikeouts (albeit with 43 walks) in 55 innings between Class A Advanced and Double-A.

    Dauris Valdez, RHP, Padres
    It's easy to dream on Valdez because he's 6-foot-8, can push his fastball into triple digits and his slider into the upper 80s. But the 2016 signee out of the Dominican Republic still is figuring out control and command after logging a 4.23 ERA with 68 strikeouts in 55 1/3 innings in Double-A this year.


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    • #3
      2019 MLB Rule 5 Draft Order, Results And Analysis


      by BA Staff
      12 Dec 2019

      Winter Meetings wrap today with the 2019 Rule 5 Draft in San Diego, scheduled to begin at 12 p.m. ET/9 a.m. PT.

      Below you can find our preview, which includes scouting reports on more than 70 eligible players, a Rule 5 Draft FAQ, plus we'll continue to update this post with analysis as the draft draws closer.

      Here is today's draft order, which is the inverse of 2019 win-loss results. Teams can only make selections if they have open 40-man roster spots, meaning the Padres, Rockies, Angels, Mets, Cardinals, Indians and Yankees all currently are ineligible to draft a player.

      2019 Rule 5 Draft Order:

      FIRST ROUND
      1. Tigers -- Rony Garcia, RHP (Yankees)
      2. Orioles -- Brandon Bailey, RHP (Astros)
      3. Marlins -- Sterling Sharp, RHP (Nationals)
      4. Royals -- Stephen Woods, Jr. RHP (Rays)
      5. Blue Jays -- Pass
      6. Mariners -- Yohan Ramirez, RHP (Astros)
      7. Pirates -- Pass
      8. Padres -- Pass
      9. Rockies -- Pass
      10. Angels -- Pass
      11. White Sox -- Pass
      12. Reds -- Mark Payton, OF (A's)
      13. Giants -- Dany Jimenez, RHP (Blue Jays)
      14. Rangers -- Pass
      15. Phillies (traded to Athletics) -- Vimael Machin, SS (Cubs)
      16. Cubs -- Trevor Megill, RHP (Padres)
      17. Red Sox -- Jonathan Arauz, SS (Astros)
      18. D-backs -- Pass
      19. Mets -- Pass
      20. Brewers -- Pass
      21. Cardinals -- Pass
      22. Nationals -- Pass
      23. Indians -- Pass
      24. Rays -- Pass
      25. Braves -- Pass
      26. A's -- Pass
      27. Twins -- Pass
      28. Yankees -- Pass
      29. Dodgers -- Pass
      30. Astros -- Pass
      SECOND ROUND
      1. Tigers -- Pass
      2. Orioles -- Michael Rucker, RHP (Cubs)
      3. Royals -- Pass
      4. Mariners -- Pass
      5. Reds -- Pass
      6. Cubs -- Pass
      7. Red Sox -- Pass
      Triple-A Phase

      ROUND 1

      1. Tigers -- RHP Ruben Garcia (Orioles)
      2. Orioles -- OF Cristopher Cespedes (Indians)
      3. Marlins -- C Julian Leon (Angels)
      4. Blue Jays -- RHP Hobie Harris (Yankees)
      5. Mariners -- C Brian O'Keefe (Cardinals)
      6. Pirates -- RHP Alex Quino (Braves)
      7. Padres -- LHP Brady Feigl (Rangers)
      8. Rockies -- RHP Nate Griep (Brewers)
      9. Angels -- RHP Erick Julio (Rockies)
      10. White Sox -- RHP Will Carter (Yankees)
      11. Reds -- SS Michael De Leon (Rangers)
      12. Giants -- C Bryan Torres (Brewers)
      13. Rangers -- RHP Eris Filpo (Rockies)
      14. Cubs -- RHP Brock Stewart (Blue Jays)
      15. Red Sox -- RHP Raynel Espinal (Yankees)
      16. Mets -- RHP Adam Oller (Giants)
      17. Cardinals -- RHP Jordan Brink (Brewers)
      18. Nationals -- SS Manuel Geraldo (Giants)
      19. Indians -- LHP Daniel Young (Blue Jays)
      20. Rays -- LHP Faustino Carrera (Cubs)
      21. Braves -- 2B Wendell Rijo (Yankees)

      ROUND 2

      24. Tigers -- 2B Brian Schales (Twins)
      25. Orioles -- 2B Wilbis Santiago (Indians)
      26. Mariners -- CF Jhonny Santos (Marlins)
      27. Rockies -- RHP Michael Petersen (Brewers)
      28. Angels -- OF Edwin Yon (Reds)
      29. Reds -- RHP Miguel Figueroa (Giants)
      30. Rangers -- RHP Andriu Marin (Twins)
      31. Cubs: --OF Jerrick Sulter (Pirates)
      32. Red Sox -- RHP Jose Espada (Blue Jays)
      33. Cardinals -- RHP Enrique Saldana (Rockies)
      34. Indians -- RHP Jhon Peluffo (Orioles)
      35. A's -- C Jose Colina (Indians)

      ROUND 3

      36. Mariners --1B Daniel Gomez (Cardinals)
      37. Angels -- OF Pedro Diaz (Rays)
      38. Cubs -- OF Vance Vizcaino (Rockies)
      39. Cardinals -- RHP Jacob Bosiokovic (Rockies)
      40. A's -- RHP Delvy Mendez (Padres)

      ROUND 4

      41. Angels -- C Carlos Reina (Reds)
      42. Cubs -- SS David Masters (Nationals)


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      • #4
        good news is having a shitty system is no one poaches your players.

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        • #5
          Rule 5...so be it, and it isn't because we have a shitty system, we traded away players and had enough room to protect what we do have. But the rule worthy of discussion is the rule replacing 5.10 (g); that rule required a RP to face a minimum of 1 batter...that becomes 3 batters or until the inning end or the pitcher is injured. Another feeble attempt to reduce the length of the games without facing down the MLBPA and going to a pitch count or calling a ball on a batter stepping out of the box to ease his jock itch.

          Example; pitcher comes in the 8th with a runner on and a 2 run lead, he has zilch and by the time he faces his 3 batters two runs are in and runners on 2nd and 3rd with none out. That will happen... Certainly Selig had no cojones and apparently neither does Manfred. When will the 2-1 game get the respect it deserves, every rule change benefits the hitters going back to the height of the mound and the introduction of the DH who couldn't catch a ball or run.

          Beyond this there was a positive change for 2020; rosters increase to 26 with a maximum of 13 pitchers. On Sept 1 rosters will increase to 28 down from the 40 of previous seasons. Of course those 28 will still allow for plenty of pitchers with the other starters excluded and any RPs who are not available.

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          • NY FANG
            NY FANG commented
            Editing a comment
            fine - corrected - good news behind having a shallow/young system...

        • #6
          A dumb rule that will only handcuff the manager.

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          • #7
            Certainly benefits the hitters. Certainly removes the Loogy's value. But unlike the "jock itch" rule, this one will limit consecutive periods of extended downtime.

            Jockitch saves a few second. Might add up, but it's you don't perceivable it at the time.

            This saves a few minutes, and when it's bang bang bang with multiple replacements in a short span, it's VERY perceivable.

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          • #8
            First thought before reading the article - ugh, this is going to be like Bernie Sanders "don't change the minor league system because change is bad!!!" stance. Now without further ado, I'll read the article and see how wrong I was.

            Main argument - solving a problem that doesn't really exist. He claims there will only be 1 game affected every 3-4 games, or a total of 44 seconds saved at the cost of strategy. Let's assume his facts are solid and not manipulated or cherry picked in some way. I think everyone here has had the "ugh, another pitching change?" feeling. Even if it is as slight as the author says it is, its still perceivable. Will this help? Only one way to find out. But at least now I can take solace in knowing that the rule change hasn't affected the manager's ability to manager for more than 1 out of every 4 games

            After reading the article, I find the real main argument is a "what about ___" argument, which I find tiring. Just because there is another problem (lack of pitch clock) doesn't mean you can't attack both at once. Chew gum and walk at the same time. MLB is trying to address both at once.

            One thing I would be ok for is having this rule for regular season only. Once you get to playoffs, time constraints are no longer an issue (as proven by the million and 1 commercials).

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            • #9
              I can take solace in knowing that the rule change hasn't affected the manager's ability to manager for more than 1 out of every 4 games
              Is that etched in stone? I don't get excited at back to back pitching changes, but i'll suffer the wait knowing manager is making effort to resolve an issue. Leaving a non-competitive pitcher isn't how the game should be played and even worse if the out come is still undecided. Anything less if a farce.

              Baseball doesn't have a clock like B ball or Football, some games are sub 3 Hr games and other go 18 innings and 5 + hours. It has worked well for 140 years or until society's need for immediate satisfaction over wrote their tolerance for the intended slower pace of America's Game.

              There is a majesty to baseball that the other clock games don't have. It is played by people of relatively normal size...need not be 280 or 6'10 to apply. It requires more skill to perform. However there is an answer, leave the game alone and let it play out as intended and allow the fans in the seats to leave when they have exceeded the extent of their focus even if that in the 3rd inn. At home wrestle the remote from the dog and...

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              • #10
                I know you're a man of ... ummm ... extended experience, and change can be a hard thing to process, but it can be for the overall good

                The game isn't the same as it was 100 years ago.
                • Used to not care what a player put in their body, now you can't take anything without consulting a doctor.
                • The mound goes up, it goes back down.
                • Bats go to maple, minor league bans maple bats.
                • Stadium trends go bigger. Stadium Trends go Smaller
                • Commercials used to be what the Radio guy spoke during the half inning to fill the dead air...
                I don't buy the argument "leave the game alone" as that argument is only used when fitting. Otherwise, the argument would be, f' the reliever, the starter should be going every other day for 9 innings! No no, the game progresses, and with it, the rules progress. Whether the move is right or wrong, the answer shouldn't be "don't tinker" because then we'd still have players like Ruben Tejada at risk from dirty slides.

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                • West Coast Mets Fan
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                  I agree the game needs to evolve. However, I disagree that rules should dictate strategy like this rule does and I disagree with rules that dictate roster makeup, i.e., Roster expands to 26 with a max number of pitchers. Each manager should be able to manage his own game and each GM should be able to decide on the composition of his roster.

                • yogi8
                  yogi8 commented
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                  Your comments are insulting FANG. I am not opposed to change and your example of Tejada and Buster Posey before him are positive change.

                  Creating a rule to save a few minutes from some games at the risk of allowing a defenseless situation alter the outcome of a game is not positive...it is pandering to the fans. Not the fan of "extended experience", but rather the instant gratification fan.

                  Manfred can't control hitters to stay in the box, he doesn't want to deal with the pitchers and a pitch clock. Easy out...don't let the managers manage...only 30 of them and they aren't protected by the MLBPA.

                • NY FANG
                  NY FANG commented
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                  I truly hope you weren't insulted, as that was the most mild mannered of jokes, but if you actually were, please confirm and I'll refrain from any type of camaraderie type of jesting at your expense and stick sole to opinions. I expect the clock to make it to the majors in the next 2-3 years, so again, talk about this issue, and not "what aboutisms". I disagree with your assessment of it ruining the game, and remind you that if you want pure baseball, go watch somewhere that's free. MLB is a business and fans are the clients. Pandering to your client base is good business. You might upset some, but if you attract more new ones, thats a business win. Changing a rule doesn't remove strategy, it adjusts it. Maybe death of the Loogy means extra relevance for the 2 inning reliever... maybe that's why the Mets wanted Wacha. Shifting of strategy; time will tell.

              • #11
                It's history, but yes I was insulted being positioned with the Neo-Luddites. Not opposed to change if and when they make sense and contribute to the rules of the game. Removing the managerial influence from the game for 3 batters after a pitching change is not constructive. Does Manfred or anyone on the field of play get paid by the hour?

                So the game with additional pitching changes INTENDED to win a game add 6-8 minutes to the game is far better than watching a game go down the drain because the manager is locked in to a pitcher who is helpless.

                I believe there is a difference between fans and spectators, one being the foundation of the sport and the other being a occasional ticket sale. Pandering to the occasional ticket at the cost of the foundation is when the Business* will suffer.

                *New Coke; New Coke was the largest failure seen in the Cola Wars. Coca-Cola lost part of their fan base when they forgot their Americana and nostalgic feelings

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