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    Sources: Mets Doing Background Work on Carlos Beltran,
    Mutual Interest Between Player and Team

    Beltran had bumpy tenure as a member of the Mets

    7 Oct 2019, 8:55 PM ET
    MINNEAPOLIS -- The Carlos Beltran- as-Mets-manager speculation has now grown legs and turned into an actual story.

    Mets officials have been doing background work on Beltran in recent days, trying to determine if he is ready to be a manager, according to major league sources.

    Many Mets people know Beltran well from this time with the team; he is particularly close with Omar Minaya and Allard Baird, who was his GM in Kansas City. Now, the Mets are looking into Beltran's development since he left in 2011, both as a leader and a rookie member of the Yankees front office.

    When SNY first reported last week that Beltran's name was in the mix to replace Mickey Callaway, we added heavy skepticism because of his sometimes bumpy tenure in Queens. A friend of Beltran's went so far as to say there was "no chance" Beltran would take the job.

    But over the past few days, sources have pointed to an increased openness on both sides to Beltran at least interviewing for the job.

    "That's all in the past," said one Mets person on the old tensions with Beltran, which originally stemmed from his decision to undergo knee surgery in 2010, against the team's wishes.

    In the years since, Beltran became a veteran leader in several clubhouses. He is almost universally respected in the game, and is currently traveling with the Yankees as part of their postseason front office contingent.

    Asked if the Mets had requested permission to interview Beltran, a person involved in the process said, "Not yet."

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  • #2
    I am firmly opposed to Beltran. Best all around position player the Mets ever had. Reportedly was a good mentor his last year on the Astros team.

    Last time we had a rookie manager was Mickey. Give me a guy with experience.


    • #3
      I am not sure who the heck I want. They all have warts. Girardi who seems to be the best choice reportedly does not relate to the young player and that is our core. Showalter wears out his welcome wherever he goes. Another rookie, er I don't know. But what if Beltran is more Boone than Callaway?


      • #4
        Is boon a product of his payroll and prospects? Or of good managing?

        I really like Beltran, and constantly defend that called strike three from a pitcher that was making his entrance to being a top pitcher for the next decade, but 2 years removed from playing, with 1 year FO experience (not even in the dugout)... it's just not the same being on the player side, and being in the war room...

        Talk to me in 3 years, but pass for now.


        • #5
          Carlos Beltran Expresses Desire to Become MLB Manager,
          Makes Case with Mets Job Open

          The 20-year veteran outfielder feels ready to lead an MLB team

          by GARRETT STEPIEN
          13 Oct 2019, 10:38 PM ET

          As the Mets' search for their new manager continues, one former New York star publicly expressed his desire to lead an MLB team for 2020 and beyond, but will the opportunity come in orange and blue?

          Before the Yankees played Game 2 of the ALCS against the Astros at Minute Maid Park in Houston, former 20-year veteran outfielder Carlos Beltran expressed his desire to become a manager when he caught up with SNY's Andy Martino on the field.

          Beltran, who spent 2005-10 as a Met and slashed .279/.366/.499 with 134 home runs and 493 RBI in 741 games over six seasons, interviewed Thursday for the New York job and turned down chances to do the same with the Chicago Cubs and San Diego Padres.

          "I love the game," said Beltran, who slashed .279/.350/.486 with 435 home runs and 1,587 RBI in 1,582 career games. "I love to compete -- I did it for 20 years -- and I feel like I can impact players' lives in a positive way. There's no doubt that, as a manager, you're going to have your moments where you may sit down and have a tough conversation with a player.

          "But at the end of the day, I did that as a player. So it won't be that different. I feel that I can bring positive(s) to a clubhouse. I can bring a lot of good things here. I was able to, throughout my career, be able to have good relationships, be able to have good conversations with the players -- and I'm willing to do the same as a manager."

          In the Yankees' front office as a special adviser to Yankees general manager Brian Cashman since last December, Beltran said he gained a better understanding of how baseball has changed -- and will continue to do so -- with the analytics-driven trends.

          Beltran played for the Yankees in two full years from 2014-15 and started his third season with 99 games before he got traded to the Texas Rangers and finished 2016 there.

          After he capped his career in 2017 with the Astros, who won the World Series, Beltran interviewed for the Yankees' vacancy that ended up going to second-year manager Aaron Boone.

          "I just retired from the game, the Yankees gave me the opportunity to interview for the job -- I wasn't thinking about it," Beltran said. "So this time around, I feel like I'm more prepared from working in the front office for the Yankees, being able to see where baseball is going, being able to see that the ... value that information has on players and how you can make good decisions to put the guys out there in position to be successful.

          "So I feel that I'm in a good position. I know that it experience as a manager is not there, but I have 20 years in baseball, I got to be able to be proactive in the clubhouse, dealing with situations in the clubhouse and being able to work, how important chemistry is in the clubhouse. So those things, I have them down. The managerial situation has to come with opportunity and time to do it."

          Other managers have more experience, such as Joe Girardi and Buck Showalter, but Beltran believes he can bring his own ability to the table between reliability around players and a strong understanding of the numbers game increasingly being played by MLB front offices.

          "Think about if you're trying to do an investment decision -- you want to have information to make sure you make good decisions, so it's the same thing -- analytics is the same," Beltran said. "A lot of times, I don't like to call it analytics -- I like to call it information. And the players, also, when they hear that word, they're more receptive to receive information that -- what are they doing right, what are they doing wrong and make adjustments, because baseball's about making adjustments."

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          • #6
            Latest on Carlos Beltran

            by MARK POLISHUK
            13 Oct 2019, 6:22 PM CDT
            Former star outfielder Carlos Beltran has emerged as a popular candidate in managerial searches around the league, though Beltran has only one particular destination in mind. Speaking to reporters (including Peter Abraham of the Boston Globe and Newsday’s Anthony Rieber) today, Beltran said that he was only interested in managing in New York, to the point of turning down interview requests from other teams. It was already known that Beltran declined to speak to the Padres about their managerial vacancy, and he revealed today that he had also passed on a chance to interview with the Cubs.

            This leaves the Mets as Beltran’s only potential landing spot if he does indeed make a move into the dugout. He reportedly interviewed for the position last Thursday, though he didn’t officially confirm this during today’s media session. SNY’s Andy Martino notes that the lack of confirmation could have to do with the Mets putting high priority on secrecy” during their managerial search (though several names have already been linked to the Mets job).

            Though Beltran has long expressed an interest in continuing to work in baseball after hanging up his cleats, he has been particular about which opportunities he has pursued. It’s clear that his particular interest in remaining in New York has influenced those decisions — beyond his current connection to the Mets’ job, Beltran interviewed for the Yankees’ managerial vacancy after the 2017 season that was eventually filled by Aaron Boone, and has spent the last year working as a special advisor in the Yankees’ front office. Obviously, Beltran has longstanding ties to the Big Apple after playing for the Mets from 2005-11, and then for the Yankees in 2014-16.

            Though Cubs president of baseball operations Theo Epstein has indicated he would “have a greater comfort for someone” with past managerial experience, Beltran is one of several potential first-time managers who have been on the Cubs’ radar during their own search. Mark Loretta, David Ross, and Will Venable have never managed at the Major League or minor league levels before, though the Cubs are also slated to meet with a very experienced former MLB skipper in Joe Girardi.

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            • #7
              Beltran was a GREAT player. Maybe the best overall player we have ever had in our uniform when healthy in the history of the franchise.

              Smart, played hard, did everything right, great example, quiet leader.

              I don't know if he is cut out to be a manager in New York, though. He was not the best with the media, and like it or not (or agree with it or not), that is a HUGE part of the job in this town.

              He might end up being a great manager, but I don't know if it would be in NYC.

              Plus, it's not like his exit from the team was not exactly smooth and loving.


              • #8
                Mets to name Carlos Beltran as skipper.
                Let the discussion begin.


                • #9
                  Not sure how I feel. It's wait and see for me. I thought that Perez was going to get it.


                  • #10
                    Mets Hire Carlos Beltran as Manager

                    Beltran becomes the 22nd manager in Mets history

                    by DANNY ABRIANO
                    1 Nov 2019, 7:43 PM ET

                    The Mets have hired Carlos Beltran to be their manager. After reports surfaced earlier in the day, the Mets made the move official on Friday evening, announcing a three-year deal with a fourth-year club option for Beltran.

                    "Congratulations to Carlos. We are thrilled, as we know our passionate fans will be, to have him back in the family," said Mets COO Jeff Wilpon. "Thanks to Brodie and the entire baseball operations staff on this expansive, diverse and collaborative managerial search process."

                    "Thanks to Jeff and the ownership group for their ongoing support as we worked through a very detailed managerial search process,"
                    said GM Brodie Van Wagenen. "We are very excited to bring Carlos on board as our next manager and re-introduce him to Mets fans next week."

                    Beltran, who had been working as an adviser under Yankees GM Brian Cashman, was one of many candidates in the Mets' managerial search that also included Eduardo Perez, Tim Bogar, Derek Shelton, Pat Murphy, Luis Rojas, and Joe Girardi.

                    After the Mets began to pare their list down, Beltran -- the only one of the Mets' finalists to not have any prior coaching or managing experience at any level -- was part of a third round of interviews with team owner Fred Wilpon.

                    According to SNY's Andy Martino, Beltran has told the Mets that his ideal bench coach would be former manager Terry Collins. However, that is not something that is guaranteed to happen.

                    When Beltran interviewed for the Yankees manager job in 2017, he made the same request regarding Collins as his potential bench coach. That manager job eventually went to Aaron Boone.
                    Prior to interviewing with the Mets, Beltran turned down the opportunity to interview with the Cubs and Padres for manager.

                    Beltran and Perez had been serious candidates throughout the search, Martino reported, noting on Friday during the late stages of the process that it was not uncommon for teams to keep a few candidates in the mix while negotiations were ongoing

                    Prior to joining the Yankees as an adviser in December of 2018, Beltran played for the Mets (2005 to 2011) during a 20-year career that also included stints with the Royals, Astros, Cardinals, Giants, Yankees, and Rangers. He retired after the 2017 season.

                    The 42-year-old Beltran had a reputation during his career for taking players under his wing and had spoken in recent years about his desire to manage after wrapping up his Hall-of-Fame worthy playing career.

                    Along with Darryl Strawberry, Beltran was one of the best two-way players in Mets history.

                    During his seven-season tenure in Queens, Beltran hit .280/.369/.500 with 149 HR, 208 doubles, and 559 RBI in 839 games while playing exceptional defense in center field.

                    Beltran's time with the Mets ended in July of 2011 when he was traded to the Giants for Zack Wheeler.

                    Now, with Wheeler potentially on the way out via free agency, Beltran is on the way back in.

                    Mets Name Carlos Beltran Manager

                    by JEFF TODD
                    1 Nov 2019, 6:38 PM CDT
                    The Mets have officially named Carlos Beltran their next manager. He’ll reportedly earn approximately $3MM over the guaranteed three-year term, with a club option to follow.
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ID:	9408f indeed a deal is ticked and tied, it’ll launch a fascinating new chapter in Mets history. Beltran, a recently retired former Mets star who left the organization on less-than-pleasant terms, will pair up with ever-interesting sophomore GM Brodie Van Wagenen as the club does battle in a tough NL East.

                    Beltran, 42, had previously interviewed for the Yankees’ managerial opening that went to Aaron Boone. While he missed on that gig, Beltran joined the Bronx-based organization’s front office as a special advisor. That experience ended up functioning as a transition time for Beltran, who’ll now get back in uniform.

                    When last he donned Mets duds, Beltran was still a star-level performer. Though there were indications of sore feelings when he departed via trade in the middle of the 2011 season, things worked out well enough for the Queens denizens. Beltran hit well enough over the first half of that year — his final of a seven-season contract — to return a highly valuable player in the form of Zack Wheeler. While we likely won’t get the interesting optic of Beltran removing Wheeler from games — the righty is expected to receive a qualifying offer but decline it in favor of the open market — that swap still makes for an interesting reference point.

                    Beltran shouldn’t have any problems commanding respect in the clubhouse and with the media. He’s a rightly revered figure in the game and will likely check into Cooperstown during his time as the Mets skipper — so long as his tenure at the helm of the dugout is longer than that of his predecessor. Mickey Callaway came from quite a different place when he entered the gig, but did finish with a flourish over the final two-thirds or so of the 2019 campaign. That wasn’t enough to save his job.

                    The expectations will be lofty for Beltran’s debut campaign, at least within the organization. It’s postseason or bust for Van Wagenen and co., particularly after doubling down on the existing core slate of players at the 2019 trade deadline. It is difficult to fully assess the odds of the club cracking the postseason for the first time since 2016, given that we don’t yet know just what the roster will look like when camp breaks early next year. As we explored recently, the organization faces some obvious obstacles to improving the on-field product it will entrust to Beltran.

                    Sid Rosenberg of TalkRadio 77 WABC had the first word on Twitter. Anthony DiComo of independently reported the news (via Twitter). Marly Rivera of ESPN (via Twitter) reported the deal structure, with Bob Nightengale of USA Today (Twitter link) covering the salary.
                    Photo courtesy of USA Today Sports Images.

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                    • #11
                      Mets-Carlos Beltran history shows how surprising this hire really is

                      By Mike Vaccaro

                      November 1, 2019 | 7:07pm

                      The news breaks in the middle of a Friday afternoon — Carlos Beltran hired to manage the Mets! — and all at once a collage of snapshots rolls past the mind’s eye …

                      HAINES CITY, Fla., March 26, 1998 — Under a brutal Florida sun, an old baseball lifer named Tony Muser, the manager of the Kansas City Royals, has walked to a back field with a reporter and is watching a young player take live batting practice. The kid’s a switch hitter. He hits bombs from both sides. He is 21 years old.

                      “You see that bleepin’ kid?” Muser asks. He is as old school as it gets, and so that means he uses four-letter words more than he does three-letter options like “and” and “but.”

                      The kid’s name is Carlos Beltran.

                      “As good a bleepin’ hitter as he is,” Muser says, “as good a bleepin’ fielder as he is, let me tell you, that SOB is the smartest player that age I’ve ever seen. You’ll probably never see a bleepin’

                      player-manager ever again, but if we do, that’s the bleeper who’s gonna do it.”

                      PORT ST. LUCIE, Fla., June 11, 2010 — Another batting cage, this time at the Mets’ minor league complex. Carlos Beltran is 33 now. He has been a Rookie of the Year, a five-time All-Star, a three-time Gold Glover. He has hit 280 home runs. And, yes, he has famously taken a filthy 12-to-6 curveball from Adam Wainwright one chilly October night at Shea Stadium.

                      One more time, he is hitting moonshots in the cage.

                      “Not bad for a guy who could barely walk a few months ago,” Beltran tells a visiting reporter, dripping sweat, before smiling. “Not that everyone believes that.”

                      Kelechi Osemele won’t turn 11 for 13 more days. At a future date, he will have a dispute with his football team, the New York Jets, over whether he needs labrum surgery. He has it. The Jets cut him. It feels like the coldest kind of corporate rebuke. But in 2010, the Mets and Carlos Beltran have a similar disagreement. He believes he needed arthroscopic knee surgery. The Mets disagree. Beltran has the surgery anyway.

                      This is baseball, not football, so the Mets simmer and stew and wait for Beltran to return. He is asked point-blank if he is mad at Mets brass. He smiles quietly and unloads on another BP fastball.

                      CHICAGO, May 24, 2011 — The Mets arrive at Wrigley Field in turmoil. In the most recent issue of The New Yorker, Fred Wilpon has taken a blow torch to his team and its stars, his rants dutifully jotted down by writer Jeffrey Toobin, who talks about the other-worldly postseason Beltran had in 2004.
                      “We had some schmuck in New York who paid him based on that one series,” Wilpon said, referring to himself. “He’s 65 to 70 percent of what he was.”

                      A crowd surrounds Beltran in the cramped visitor’s clubhouse and he takes the high road, says he’ll happily speak to Fred (who will soon apologize). As the crowd dissipates, he is asked if he thought the owner’s criticisms were at all fair.

                      Beltran rolls his eyes.

                      NEW YORK, Dec. 20, 2013 — Carlos Beltran slips into a Yankees jersey for the first time, and it is impossible not to think about two things: first, when the Mets signed him in 2004 to a $119 million deal, his agent, Scott Boras, presumably at Beltran’s urging, had given the Yanks one last chance to swoop in and steal him away. They declined.

                      And, second, how it ended with the Mets.

                      “The situation they tried to put me in, that I was a bad apple,” Beltran says. “I can deal with 0-for-4s, three strikeouts and talking to you guys. But when somebody is trying to hurt you in a personal way and put things out there that aren’t me, then we have trouble. Now it’s personal. I was hurt. You cannot believe that an organization that signed you for seven years will try to put you down. They not only hurt me, they hurt my family and people around me.’’

                      So, yes: whether Carlos Beltran will be a first-time manager who pans out — see Alex Cora, Dave Martinez, Aaron Boone — as opposed to one who flames out (Mickey Callaway, Gabe Kapler) will be determined in due time. Beltran will have instant gravitas among his players, who know the kind of player he was. He was one of the great teammates ever. And he has a high baseball IQ. But he’s still an unknown, sure.

                      The fact he’s here at all … after it felt like both sides blew up that bridge worse than the one at the end of “Saving Private Ryan” …

                      I’m not surprised by a lot, but I won’t lie: I’m surprised by this.



                      There has been some discussion in the Shoutbox about the rift between Beltran and the Mets. This article gives some background. Seems to me most of it had to do with Fred's disparaging remarks about Carlos.


                      • #12
                        Girardi was my first choice. Showalter would have been a distant 2nd choice. Another rookie manager is way down the list.

                        The good news is from most of what I've read, people say Beltran has a natural instinct for the game and a knack for picking up slight details. Hopefully that translates into someone who knows how to push the right buttons. What I fear is that he replicates a trend I've seen often in employees who thinks the boss doesn't do anything and that the boss's job is easy, and now that he is the boss, there is a lot of learning on the fly.


                        • #13
                          As Ari Gold would say... Hug it Out....

                          Beltran has a home in NY, clearly wants to be in NY (signed with Yankees as player and as FO role), and the Yankee's job presumably wasn't going to be open for quite some time. So if he wanted to manage, he had two choices, either hug it out... or stay mad. So I'm not all that surprised Carlos agreed to come back.

                          I'm FAR more surprised that the Wilpons invited him back. But maybe this move will be team before personal.

                          In the end, winning cures all... so if Beltran delivers what Mickey could not, a winning season, then all hard feeling will soon be long under that rebuilt bridge.


                          • #14
                            In my mind he knows the game inside and out, the question is not whether he can keep up with the pace of the game as some have said but can he make decisions in the heat of the moment and at the same time be thinking 2 innings down the road.

                            I am trying to be fair and not judge Beltran's future based on Callaway's past and that is not an easy task.


                            • #15
                              So last year we added a GM that signaled things would be different. Now we hire a manager that might also be a signal that things will be different by a team-first attitude as Fang has said. Now to truly put a winning team on the field the most important thing that needs to change is the payroll budget. Signing Rendon and either Cole or Strasburg would be the signal I would like to see.


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