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      • #4
        So he went from wanting to play through it to out of the lineup for weeks on end. Typical.

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        • #5
          He never should have been in that line up to begin with. If you're visibly grimacing as you run, and can't decelerate before reaching the IF on a catch, then you should be on the DL... vs making it worse...

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          • #6
            Cespedes is getting the Beltran treatment by most fans.

            Wasn't fair to Carlos, not fair to Yoenis.

            Injured is injured, Yo was visibly hurting and never should have been starting while hurt. He tried to play through it but couldn't. I don't begrudge any player who has a legitimate injury, those happen and rarely does a player loaf off just to collect his money. It's unfair to get upset with a guy who got hurt.

            And to say the Mets were dumb to sign him because he had been hurt in the past is disingenuous. He was the best option, we signed him. Now, we can debate the timing and circumstance, but the fact is that when healthy Yo is a lineup and game changer.

            Injuries happen, unfortunately. All you can do is try to mitigate the risk by adding players who can pick up the slack when there are issues. Sandy chose to resign a 30+ year old basically one dimensional OF (Bruce) and a 30+ year old basically one dimensional 3B (Frazier). Surprise, surprise they got hurt. That happens to 30 year olds.

            The problem is that when you have a terrible farm system, you are forced (if you want to have "meaningful games in September" that is) to plug holes on the fly, and that means paying for 30+ year olds and crossing your fingers.

            Sometimes you roll seven, sometimes you roll craps. Most of the time, it's craps.

            Viola, we have a crap team.

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            • #7
              We also have a crap left fielder who takes a multi month vacation every season with " stwained qwads" or some other thing that a hockey player wouldn't even miss a shift for

              Problem is baseball contracts which reward this sort of idler with 125 million guaranteed whether he shows up or not

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              • #8
                Baseball ain't hockey, and the guy is injured period. It's asinine to expect a player to play when hurt, and what hockey players do don't mean diddly squat in baseball. They are totally different games.

                Hockey players play in 20-40 second shifts. Baseball players don't play in shifts, they have to be on the field the whole time.

                Additionally, especially in the OF, the action is sporadic. An outfielder has to go from basically standing still to full speed in the crack of a bat. That takes different muscles and a totally different approach physically from hockey. To compare the two sports is comparing apples and hand grenades.

                Not minimizing hockey players, they are bad assed, no doubt, but hammering Yo makes about as much sense as it did hammering Carlos Beltran. Both guys performed at high levels when healthy.

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                • #9
                  The Beltran comparison is valid, and I know in the past we've discussed this at length. He was BY FAR the best CF we've ever had here and got the team into position to be two innings from the WS. Between harping on the Wainwright pitch (which was unreal) and getting on him for an injury that sounded minor but most definitely wasn't, the lack of appreciation by fans was ridiculous.

                  Cespedes just has to get healthy. Hammies can linger for a very long time and if anyone has had a similar injury you know running is impossible.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Brian Stark View Post
                        Baseball ain't hockey, and the guy is injured period. It's asinine to expect a player to play when hurt, and what hockey players do don't mean diddly squat in baseball. They are totally different games.

                        Hockey players play in 20-40 second shifts. Baseball players don't play in shifts, they have to be on the field the whole time.

                        Additionally, especially in the OF, the action is sporadic. An outfielder has to go from basically standing still to full speed in the crack of a bat. That takes different muscles and a totally different approach physically from hockey. To compare the two sports is comparing apples and hand grenades.

                        Not minimizing hockey players, they are bad assed, no doubt, but hammering Yo makes about as much sense as it did hammering Carlos Beltran. Both guys performed at high levels when healthy.

                        Has the wittle feller been "healthy" for more than a few weeks since 2016?

                        Or coincidentally since he got his 5 year $125 million extension?

                        And hockey players have to move and get hit and battered for virtually every second they are on the ice vs baseball wussies especially outfielders who generally stand around doing nothing for half the game and sit in the dugout doing nothing for the other half.

                        Yet hockey players don't even miss a shift for a "stwained qwad" while certain baseball outfielders take more than a month off

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                        • #13
                          Whatever, dude, you are ridiculous.

                          If you want a player out there who is hurt just to prove he is a man in your eyes, then it's you who has the problem.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Thomasam View Post
                            The Beltran comparison is valid, and I know in the past we've discussed this at length. He was BY FAR the best CF we've ever had here and got the team into position to be two innings from the WS. Between harping on the Wainwright pitch (which was unreal) and getting on him for an injury that sounded minor but most definitely wasn't, the lack of appreciation by fans was ridiculous.

                            Cespedes just has to get healthy. Hammies can linger for a very long time and if anyone has had a similar injury you know running is impossible.
                            And it's not a quad or a hammy, it's a hip flexor, which is a chronic, debilitating injury that he will have to deal with for his entire life.

                            Much worse than some "widdle hammy" idiocy. Only someone who has never had an injury, or played a game for real, would be that stupid.

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                            • #15
                              Please stop making excuses for this vastly overpaid idler.

                              As a Met fan since 1962, I'm tired of babying this guy as he vacations thru every minor injury.

                              Nauseating

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