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          1. Big bat.
          2. Legit closer.
          3. Bullpen, bullpen, bullpen.

          Plain and simple.

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          • #6
            Brian, for #1, that's kind of part of the issue... big bat, yes.. where though?

            2B - is there a bat out there better than McNeil's potential? I give it to the kid.
            SS - Rosario is the future htere.
            3B - Frazier has 9M committed for next year. I don't see the Mets getting rid of that.
            OF - Ces, Conforto, Bruce, Nimmo, Lags. Overcrowded already, I don't see a big investement there. Sadly, Bruce was the OF money, and it's spent.

            So that leaves:

            C: Is there a "big bat" out there?
            1B: Then you're essentially cutting Smith and Alonso loose as trade bait...

            So unless the Mets are prepared to eat some crow on the moves they made last off season, there's really no where to put a "big bat".

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            • #7
              Another big bat, certainly, since the big bats have been so crucial to our years of success. Sarcasm...what we need is health. We have the bats, Conforto, Cespedes, Bruce and Frazier.

              Conforto; This is the most complex, because it is a mix of outstanding performance, injury, recovery and the unknown. It is also split down the middle with performance for 44 weeks and the latter for the other 44 weeks of his career since he arrived late July 2015. 10 weeks in 2015, the first month of 2016...2017 until he dislocated his shoulder and from the AS break though Sept. this year. Put them altogether and we have a big bat .283/.371/.551/.922. The other 44 weeks; most of 2016 when he hit .174/.598 not including two demotions to AAA and the first 16 weeks of this season as an ineffective Conforto recovered from his shoulder injury all add up to .197/.310/.350/.660.

              Cespedes is pretty straight forward, when he plays he hits. Since signing his first Mets contract his slash line book end is .281/.877. Seems that Cespedes has turned out to be injury prone having missed 235 games in the past 3 seasons...16 games into the 2019 season, Cespedes will be on the 60 day DL, that day will also mark the 50-50 line. Half his games in the lineup and 50% injured, resting/rehabbing or on the DL.

              Frazier; Since his rookie season Frazier has averaged 154 games and had never been on the DL...2018 he made two trips, (hamstring and a non oblique rib) missing 43 games, extrapolate the season with the missing games and it's 25 Hrs. and 81 RBI. At 17 M for two seasons he was a low risk signing and it still is.

              Bruce; got off on the wrong foot when traded for in 2016, hitting .183/.552 with 2 Hrs. in 103 PA in Aug. 1st round draft pick by the Reds, he spent most of 16 seasons with one club and also had to abandon his family when traded. Bruce righted the ship hitting .263/.846 w/ 6 Hrs in the drive for the WC in Sept. Bruce was productive in 2017 hitting .256/.841 with 29 Hrs. before being traded to the Indians in Aug., he also had a good post season in a losing effort.

              2018 was all about injury and sacrifice. With both Lagares and Cespedes on the DL, Bruce continued to play with Plantar Faciitis...a back injury and finally a hip sprain that he couldn't play through. Bruce was hitting .212/.613 with 3 Hrs. when he went on the DL - Jun.17th. Missing 59 games Bruce homered in his first game back on Aug.24th and hit .243/.811 with 6 Hrs. in the final 5 weeks. Bruce averaged 29 Hrs. with 90 RBI in the 7 seasons prior and finished 2018 on a the upswing.

              Our rotation got one year older in 2018 and more expensive, Cespedes will cost 29 M whether he plays nor not, Lags, Bruce and Frazier total 32 M. What money available should be directed toward CF, C and BP and the purchase of rabbits feet and 4 leaf clovers to get and keep our big bats on the field.


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              • yogi8
                yogi8 commented
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                Lagares 242 days on the DL 2016 - 18, Cespedes 235 days. Both players names end in es....fortunately Robles was relatively healthy

            • #8
              what is there to fix? The Mets played .620 baseball from August 4th thru the end of the season...they just need to fire their medical staff, and they would be in the playoffs...

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                Would it be too much to ask for Machado?

                What, stop looking at me like that, a boy can dream.

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                • Drucifer
                  Drucifer commented
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                  Only if he accepts third base beforehand and his contact is no longer then 7 years.

                • NY FANG
                  NY FANG commented
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                  don't worry about Gimenez - I'm sure he'll lose the luster of the fan base by beginning of 2020, so we can just write him off now and fill his spot

                • yogi8
                  yogi8 commented
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                  Rosario, McNeil, Reinheimer, Guillorme and now Gimenez....was there a BOGO sale on MIFs?

              • #10
                Maybe Mets and DBacks line up for an offseason blockbuster...

                If we could pry away Paul Goldschmidt (1 year remaining before FA) by also taking on Greinke’s contract ($35 million/yr through 2021, that could put a jolt into this team.
                Offer up Peter Alonso and Justin Dunn as the headliners with Jay bruce going back to them in a pure salary dump on Mets part.

                Could that work?
                With two of their best players, A.J. Pollock and Patrick Corbin, set to hit free agency while other key players …

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                • #11
                  Adding Zack Greinke to a rotation that is already loaded would be tempting, but 105 M over 3 seasons is overkill and not directed at a weakness. Could we land Goldschmidt for..... Dunn looks like a possibility as part of a package with Alonso ...maybe Matz or Oswalt to fill the gap created by Corbin.

                  With Cespedes a no show until...? I believe we need Bruce along with Conforto, Lagares and Nimmo.


                  The Dbacks are in a tough division and even with a good rotation their OF is below avg. corner to corner and Pollock's frequent injuries haven't helped.

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                  • #12
                    Yay or nay? Which of these players should we keep versus cut loose under the next GM regime?

                    Catchers:
                    d’Arnaud - Nay (non-tender)
                    Plawecki - Yay
                    Nido - Yay

                    Note - perhaps sign an everyday catcher with Plawecki and Nido as backup options

                    1B:
                    Bruce - Nay (trade to Giants for Melancon?)
                    Smith - Yay
                    Alonso - Yay

                    Note - let Smith and Alonso battle for the position in Spring Training, the loser sent to triple A

                    2B:
                    Flores - Yay
                    McNeil - Yay
                    Rivera - Yay

                    Note - all 3 deserve to be in the organization. Rivera needs to prove his health. Can McNeil become an everyday player? Flores with one more year until FA, might become a strong trade piece come July.

                    3B:
                    Frazier - Yay

                    Note - it’s Frazier’s position until someone challenges him. The other option is to sign Machado and flip Frazier for a low level prospect...not gonna happen.

                    SS:
                    Rosario - Yay

                    Note - this is the most set in stone position in my mind...

                    LF:
                    Cespedes - Yay (can’t move his contract...)
                    Nimmo - Yay

                    Note - Should be Nimmo’s spot until cespedes returns (if he returns). They should also consider adding a reserve outfielder on a 1 year deal ala Austin Jackson

                    CF:
                    Lagares - Yay (not getting moved)
                    Conforto - Yay

                    Note - Lagares is the obvious choice in CF if healthy. Otherwise, Conforto has held down CF real well the last few seasons.

                    RF:
                    Bruce - Nay (see above)
                    Conforto - Yay

                    Note - If Dom Smith and Peter Alonso both make roster, I can see Alonso playing LF. Shifting Nimmo to RF. It’s highly likely that Bruce doesn’t get moved, which ultimately means he’s the RF.

                    SP:
                    deGrom - Yay
                    Syndergaard - Yay
                    Wheeler - Yay
                    Matz - Nay
                    Vargas - Yay

                    Note - I’d retain all except Matz. He hasn’t proven to stay healthy and even when he is, he relies on routine to keep him on track. He lacks that bulldog mentality that the top 3 have. Perhaps package for a controllable bullpen arm.

                    RP:
                    Lugo - Yay
                    Gsellman - Nay (trade)
                    Smith - Yay
                    Swarzak - Yay

                    Note - I can’t remember the other guys...Lugo was the cog last year and he’s also reliable in rotation if someone goes down. Gsellman lacks consistency, so I’d see what I can get for him. All the young guys deserve to battle it out in Spring Training. Swarzak should bounce back...
                    I put greatest focus on the bullpen and improving the back end by adding an experienced closer and set up man - Britton and Brach?







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                    • #13
                      Originally posted by jeffmetsfan View Post
                      Yay or nay? Which of these players should we keep versus cut loose under the next GM regime?
                      JEFF
                      FANG - only putting ones I disagree with in.

                      Catchers:
                      d’Arnaud - Nay (non-tender) Yay
                      Plawecki - Yay
                      Nido - Yay

                      Note - perhaps sign an everyday catcher with Plawecki and Nido as backup options
                      Note - he's cheap, and worse case scenario he goes down again and you're back to the same Plaw/Nido combo. IE nothing lost. Only potential is a Grandal or Ramos signing, but are you really looking to give 3 years to a 30/31 year old catcher?

                      1B:
                      Bruce - Nay (trade to Giants for Melancon?)
                      Smith - Yay
                      Alonso - Yay

                      Note - let Smith and Alonso battle for the position in Spring Training, the loser sent to triple A
                      Note: I agree with the Smith/Alonso thought, I don't know if the new GM will do it. He'll want to make a splash, and the Mets have very few spots to do that. Saving Bruce comment for OF

                      2B:
                      Flores - Yay
                      McNeil - Yay
                      Rivera - Yay

                      Note - all 3 deserve to be in the organization. Rivera needs to prove his health. Can McNeil become an everyday player? Flores with one more year until FA, might become a strong trade piece come July.
                      Note: Rivera likely starts the year in the minors. He needs to rediscover his swing post-TJ Surgery

                      3B:
                      Frazier - Yay

                      Note - it’s Frazier’s position until someone challenges him. The other option is to sign Machado and flip Frazier for a low level prospect...not gonna happen.
                      Note: Not enamored here, but don't know if there's a better option out there (outside Manny), and price is reasonable.

                      SS:
                      Rosario - Yay

                      Note - this is the most set in stone position in my mind...

                      LF:
                      Cespedes - Yay (can’t move his contract...)
                      Nimmo - Yay

                      Note - Should be Nimmo’s spot until cespedes returns (if he returns). They should also consider adding a reserve outfielder on a 1 year deal ala Austin Jackson
                      Note: Just a little rearranging, otherwise mainly agree. I have Conforto here until Ces back.

                      CF:
                      Lagares - Yay (not getting moved)
                      Conforto - Yay

                      Note - Lagares is the obvious choice in CF if healthy. Otherwise, Conforto has held down CF real well the last few seasons.
                      Note: I have Nimmo here until Ces back

                      RF:
                      Bruce - Nay (see above) Yay
                      Conforto - Yay

                      Note - If Dom Smith and Peter Alonso both make roster, I can see Alonso playing LF. Shifting Nimmo to RF. It’s highly likely that Bruce doesn’t get moved, which ultimately means he’s the RF.
                      Note: I don't see the Mets sending Bruce anywhere with Cespedes potentially out most of the year. He'll start in RF and be their every day guy. Not loving the 3 Lefties, which doesn't even include Dom if you give him 1B, but it is what it is.

                      SP:
                      deGrom - Yay
                      Syndergaard - Yay
                      Wheeler - Yay
                      Matz - Nay Yay
                      Vargas - Yay

                      Note - I’d retain all except Matz. He hasn’t proven to stay healthy and even when he is, he relies on routine to keep him on track. He lacks that bulldog mentality that the top 3 have. Perhaps package for a controllable bullpen arm.
                      Note: DeGrom made the most starts for the Mets last year, do you know who made second most? Steve Matz @30. I agree on the lost puppy mentality, but as your 4/5, you're not doing better than 3.97 and 1.247 whip. Sadly I want to Nay Vargas, but not going to cut him, and who would take him? Wheelers also a potential trade candidate if they can't come to terms on an extension.

                      RP:
                      Lugo - Yay
                      Gsellman - Nay (trade) Yay
                      Smith - Yay
                      Swarzak - Yay

                      Note - I can’t remember the other guys...Lugo was the cog last year and he’s also reliable in rotation if someone goes down. Gsellman lacks consistency, so I’d see what I can get for him. All the young guys deserve to battle it out in Spring Training. Swarzak should bounce back...
                      I put greatest focus on the bullpen and improving the back end by adding an experienced closer and set up man - Britton and Brach?
                      Note: This is where I expect to see the most movement. Swarzak is safe because his money is guaranteed. Gsellman isn't going anywhere unless they get a nice price for him. 68 appearances for a guy who's never been a reliever... mismanagement anyone? I would agree on buying a back end.


                      Final Note: I don't think you see much change between the August team and the 2019 opening day Mets. Some back end BP help, definitely. But outside of that, I wouldn't be surprised to see them roll with what they got. C, 1B and CF are really their only positions opened, and it's an incredibly weak FA class for all of those.

                      Nice review btw. Broad-strokes, but got them all.

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